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Health Information on Dogs we have Bred

Information on hip and elbow x-rays, thyroid, eye checks, seizures, as well as testicles, bites, and dentition.

One of the factors that first attracted me to the Belgian breed was the relative lack of hereditary health problems. It is still a very healthy breed. It is not a popular breed and breeders have, to a large degree, been very diligent in checking breeding stock for hip and eye problems in recent years and only breeding healthy dogs. We have a limited gene pool and most Belgians here in North America are related if you go back just a few generations and even the imports from different countries in Europe are related with popular studs and lines showing up in pedigrees of dogs from many regions.

What two dogs produce in a litter is a combination of traits, not only of the sire and dam, but of many traits they carry from dogs far back in their pedigrees as well. Recessive traits can hide for many generations, some traits are the result of many genes working together in combination with environment, as in hip dysplasia, and what we see in a dog may be not give a true picture of what that dog will produce in his or her puppies. Being a breeder can be very rewarding but also very frustrating as recessive traits, long hidden, crop up in the most carefully planned litters and cause suffering for the dogs and heartbreak, as well as a financial burden, to their owners.

I was inspired to create this page by seeing ones like it on some of the Swedish, Australian and Finnish web sites. I have been breeding more than 25 years now and have yet to find a line without some sort of problem occasionally showing up. They are all related. Responsible breeders try to avoid doubling up on the same problems in their lines and make informed choices. If problems are not talked about new breeders will make the same mistakes to the detriment of the breed as a whole. So here goes and I will do the best I can to keep it up to date and accurate. I hope more breeders will create their own pages and help everyone realize we in this together for the good of the breed as a whole, and that when a health issue does come to light it is something to be learned from and not fuel to condemn or gossip about another's 'line' of dogs.

One thing to be aware of in searching CERF and OFA websites is that owners can decide when they send in x-rays to submit them as 'closed', where only passing results are published and available to the public, or as 'open' where both good and bad results are published. There is an option to download quarterly reports and they have data on which dogs were submitted as closed vs. open.

Some owners don't even bother submitting any results they don't think will pass. For some they don't feel it is anyone else's business, for some they don't want any problems associated with their dogs or line. On a personal level I can understand as our dogs are not just livestock but a part of our family and we love them and don't want anyone to say anything negative about our 'family members' and we are used to having health issues private in our society.

As breeders we have a greater responsibility to the breed as a whole whenever we produce a new litter of puppies, and to future breeders who will try to research and make sound breeding decisions. To every owner who loves this breed and would like to have healthy puppies available in the future you need to be open about health issues. That said not every health problem is hereditary, there are nutritional and environmental issues that affect health and injuries can and do happen. But the more data you have you can make informed decisions. If 8 puppies in a litter have good or excellent hips and one puppy has one bad hip then it may likely be due to an injury. But if you have good and fair hips in the rest of the litter and another sibling or two with bad hips then it may be a not the best breeding for hips. If you just look at one puppy and don't have data on the others you just don't have enough information to make a sound breeding decision. Hopefully this makes sense!

If anyone has any questions on health issues in any of my litters please contact me directly, I'm happy discuss them and don't bite! <G>

http://www.offa.org/search.html - Search OFA database

http://www.offa.org/databasechange.pdf - Explanation of Open vs. Semi-Open option

http://www.offa.org/reports.html - Download Quarterly reports

http://www.vmdb.org/verify.html - Search CERF

It is not always easy to get pet owners to do x-rays of hips and elbows as well as eye exams, even if it is in the puppy contract, as it is in mine. I will be contacting pet homes and encouraging them to follow up as much as possible as these youngsters mature.

To the best of my knowledge none of the dogs that I have bred have developed epilepsy to date.

*** If you have an Isengard Belgian, even if neutered or spayed, please help me keep my records up to date and accurate by sending me information. ***

*** If you neuter please have hip and elbows x-rayed at the same time. ***

A BIG THANK YOU to those who have already submitted data on their dogs!!

Last updated April 10, 2008

Isengard's ''U" Litter -- Born: July 22nd, 2007 -- Pedigree -- 2 females and 3 males - All Groenendael

Select Am/Can Ch Isengard's Just In Time HXAs HSAcd ATDs OTDd AX AXJ TT x Ch Isengard's Kaunis Katia HIC

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Unleashed M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
   
UFO M/2
-
-
-

Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.

   
U___ M/2
-
-
-

Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.

   
Uptempo F
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
   
Ulrika F
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
   

Isengard's "T" Litter -- Born: June 4th, 2006 -- Pedigree -- One female and Seven males - All Groenendael


French Ch sr Rival de la Fureur du Crepuscule x Ch Isengard's Licensed to Chill CD RN HIC

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Tall Sippin Sota M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor PT, RN
Touch of Gold M/2
-
-
-

BSD-1786

Comp/Scissor TD
Theoden M/2
Prelim normal
Prelim normal
-

BSD-1808 5/07

Comp/Scissor hips and elbows prelim at 1 year execellet and normal
Tristan M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor hip prelim at 4 months was excellent. Hips tight in the sockets and everything well formed.
Tour de France M/2
Prelim good/exc
Prelim normal
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Very Overshot Neutered RN, HIC. x-rays at neuter at 22 months.
Tourmaline M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor
Talisman M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor
Taliesin F
-
-
-
BSD-1806 11/07
Missing pm1 /Scissor hip prelim at 4 months was excellent. Hips tight in the sockets and everything well formed.

Isengard and Aphelion's "S" Litter --- Born: 09/02/05 -- Pedigree -- Four Males and One Female - All Groenendael

Select Ch Bayview's Run for the Money AX AXJ RE x Ch Isengard's Makin' A Scene CDX OA OAJ

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Slide'N Into Bayview M/2
BSD-3449G24M-PI
BSD-EL1182M24-PI
-

BSD-1779/07

Comp/Scissor
Group placing, BSCA Select Ch, CGC NAJ, BSD-CA49/21M/S-PI
Styder M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor
Neutered
Storm Saber M/1
-
-
-

Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.

Comp /Scissor
Neutered
Sweetheart Romeo M/1
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor
Neutered
She's All That F
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks. Comp/Scissor Spayed

Isengard's "R" Litter --- Born: 09/02/05 -Pedigree- Five Males and Two Females - All Groenendael

Am /Can BIS/BISS Ch Isengard's Joe Cool RA HIC CGC Conf HOF x Ch Isengard-n-SumerWynd Nikola HSAs

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Ring of Fire M/2
BSD3470E26M-PI
BSDEL1203M26-PI
-

-

Comp/Scissor
Ch RN
Rev It Up Bellsha M/2
BSD3508E30M-VPI
BSDEL1238M30-VPI
-
CERF BSD-1711 11/2006
Comp/Scissor
RNCL RA CGN, Can Ch
Ravenheart M/2
-
-
-

-

Comp /Scissor
pointed
Royal Flush M/2
BSD-3443E24M-PI
BSD-EL1176M24-PI
-
Eyes Normal 3/07
Comp/Scissor
pointed, neutered
Rumor Has It M/2
BSD-3504G30M-PI
DJD 1 in right elbow
-
-
Comp/Scissor
pointed
Ritual Blessing F
BSD-3454E24F-PI
BSD-EL1187F24-PI
-
-
Comp/Scissor pointed, NA, RN, PT
Rissa F
-
-
Eyes normal 11/07
Comp/Scissor Chylothorax at 2 yrs, Hit by a car at 5 months, seriously hurt but recovered. Hips good on pre-op xrays taken.

Isengard's "Q" Litter --- Born: 09/01/03 -Pedigree- Three Males and Two Females - All Groenendael

Ch Images Diamond In The Rough x Ch Isengard's Kaunis Katia HIC

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Quentin M/1
Penn-Hip Exc
-
-

-

Comp/Scissor
Monorchid
Quest for Laughter M/2
-
-
-
-
Comp/Open
Quick Study M/2
-
-
-

CERF BSD-1523/09

Comp /Scissor
neutered
Quodlibet F
OFA Exc
normal
normal
CERF pending
Comp/Scissor
Major ptd. OA OAJ
Queen Bee F
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor

Isengard's "P" Litter --- Born: 05/11/03 -Pedigree- One Male and One Female - All Groenendael

Sr. Fin S Ch Jk2 Valkohampaan Blancodiente x CH Isengard's Just Shyla MX MXJ AAD PDIII BSCA Agility HOF

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Precious M/0
BSD-3270G33M-PI
BSD-EL1015M33-PI
-

CERF BSD-1535-2004

Comp/Scissor
Cryptorchid , MX MXJ
Pure Silk F
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor
Spayed, AX, AXJ

Isengard's "O" Litter --- Born: 03/24/03 -Pedigree- Two Males - All Groenendael

Sr. Fin S Ch, JWW-98, W-99,00 Valkohampaan Dumbarton x Am/Can BISS Ch SumerWynd's Dana of Isengard CDX TD MX MXJ HX TT ROM Conf HOF Agility HOF WDX-C

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Oncore M/2
BSD-3197G26M-NOPI
BSD-EL942M26-NOPI
-

CERF BSD-1439-2005

Comp/Scissor
Ch HIC , CGC
Oberon M/2
BSD-3195G26M-NOPI
BSD-EL940M26-NOPI
-
CERF BSD-1501N/04
Comp/Scissor
Neutered, OCD in one shoulder

Isengard's "N" Litter --- Born: 08/29/02 -Pedigree- Two Males and One Female - All Groenendael

Sr. Fin S Ch, JWW-98, W-99,00 Valkohampaan Dumbarton x Am/Can BISS Ch SumerWynd's Dana of Isengard CDX TD MX MXJ HX TT ROM Conf HOF Agility HOF WDX-C

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
NeoJax M/2
BSD-3134G24M-PI
** See Notes Below
-

CERF BSD-1439-2005

Comp/Scissor
Ch CDX AX MXJ PT HIC CGC ; CHIC 19078
Natick M/2
-
-
-
Eyes screen clear at 8 weeks.
Comp/Scissor
Mast cell tumor
Nikola F
BSD-3135E24F-PI
BSD-EL894F24-PI
BSD-TH115/31F-PI

CERF BSD-1402/ 2006

Comp/Scissor
Ch HSAs; CHIC 19079 - Dam of R litter

Isengard's "M" Litter --- Born: 07/04/01 -Pedigree- Two Males and Four Females - All Groenendael

Select Am/Can Ch Isengard's Just In Time HXAs HSAd ATDs OTDd AX AXJ TT x Am/Can BISS Ch SumerWynd's Dana of Isengard CDX TD MX MXJ HX TT ROM Conf HOF Agility HOF WDX-C

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Marq of Quantum M/2
-
-
-

CERF BSD-1367/18-2003

Comp/Scissor
Ch,
Make it All For One M/2
Normal at 18 month
BSD612M54PI
-
-
Comp/Level
Preforated intestine at 4 months, neutered.
Makin' A Scene F
BSD3003G24F-PI
BSD777M24PI
BSD-TH50/18MPI

CERF BSD-1157/66 - 2006

Comp /Scissor
Ch/CDX OA NAJ RN HIC Cardiac BSD-CA22/29F/C-PI-ECHO CHIC 16167 - Dam of S litter
Mirage at Belroyale F
BSD-3077G32F-PI
Not done
-
CERF BSD-1591/2006
Comp/Scissor
Ch/MX MXJ - at Belroyale Kennel
Moment in Time F
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor
Ptd.
Miss Pepper F
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor
Hit by motorcycle and killed.

Isengard's "L" Litter --- Born: 2/24/01 -Pedigree- Six Females and Five Males - All Groenendael

Select BISS Am/Ur CH Johnsondale's Starbuck CD TT CGC ROM x Ch Greenfields Zibelle OA OAJ Select

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Bonntyme's Lothario M/2
BSD2789E24M
BSD0607M24

Comp/Scissor
Ch/neutered
Le Beau Diablo M/2
BSD3071G35M PI
BSD838M35 PI

Comp/Scissor
neutered
Le Roi M/2
Hips normal at nueter

Comp /Scissor
neutered
Love All Rafter Serves M/2
Comp/Scissor
nuetered.
Legacy of Life M/2
Comp/Scissor
nuetered. Owner moved, no forwarding information.
Licensed to Chill F
BSD-2974G26F-PI
BSD756F26-PI
BSD-TH68/26PI
CERF BSD-1320
Missing PM2 /Scissor
Ch/CD RN HIC - - CHIC 14007
Liberty Belle F
BSD-3143G44F
BSD 900F44
Eyes clear/CERF not sent in.
Comp/Scissor
Ch
La Sage Noir F         Missing PM2 /Scissor CD RN CGC HIC HCT DLAATE/spayed.
Little Sunshine F         Comp/Scissor spayed.
Little Feather F         Comp/Scissor spayed.
Cassie F         Comp/Scissor spayed.

Isengard's "K" Litter Page --- Born: 12/24/00 - Pedigree - One Female Groenendael

Re Greco de la Grande Lande x Am/Can BISS Ch SumerWynd's Dana of Isengard CDX TD MX MXJ HX TT ROM Conf HOF Agility HOF WDX-C

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Kaunis Katia   F BSD2957E27FPI BSD-EL740F27PI BSDTH64/28FPI CERF BSD-1278 11/07 Comp/Scissor Ch/HIC - CHIC 13360

Isengard's "J" Litter --- Born: 11/25/99 -Pedigree- Two Females and Five Males - All Groenendael

Re Greco de la Grande Lande x Am/Can BISS Ch SumerWynd's Dana of Isengard CDX TD MX MXJ HX TT ROM Conf HOF Agility HOF WDX-C

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Joe Cool M/2
BSD2789E24M
BSD0607M24
BSD-TH45/24M

CERF BSD-1239N/77-2006

Comp/Scissor
Ch/CD RA HIC, BSCA BISS, multi-select- neutered due to prostate problems-- Cardiac OFA BSD-CA15/39M - CHIC 13345
Journey to the Top M/2
BSD3099E53PIM
BSD612M54PI

CERF BSD-1264/28 - 2001

Comp/Scissor
Ch/UD PT MX MXJ - CHIC 13342 ; neutered
Just In Time M/2
BSD2815G25MPI
BSD622M25PI
BSD-TH50/18MPI

CERF BSD-11157 11/07

Missing 2 PM1 /Scissor
Ch/HX AX AXJ TT Select. Had PM1s until 3 years old then lost them.
Jaques de Bastogne M/2
Hips Normal
-
-
Eyes Normal, CERF not sent in
Comp/Scissor
AX AXJ nuetered. Forgot AKC numbers when x-ray done. x-ray available.
Joli Harry Potter M/2
-
-
-
CERF BSD-1264 2000 - Pannus
Comp/Level
Pannus developed later, after CERF. nuetered. Owner moved, no forwarding information.
Just Shyla F
BSD-2834E32F-PI
BSD1002F78-PI
-
CERF BSD-1409/76 - 2005
Comp/Scissor
Ch/CGC PT - Spayed - CHIC 29336
Jezabelle F
BSD-2812G25F
BSD 623F25
Comp/Scissor
Spayed - working Therapy Dog

Isengard's "I" Litter Page --- Born: 7/11/99 - Pedigree - Two Females and Seven Males - All Groenendael

Ch Verseau's Forever George CD Select x Ch Greenfields Zibelle OA OAJ Select

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
In the Spotlight M/2 BSD2748E24M EL BSD569M24 BSD-TH58/40M

CERF BSD-1252N/53-2003

Comp/Scissor Ch/CD HIC - neutered -- Cardiac OFA BSD-CA15/39M CHIC 12817, AOM, Multi Group placer
Instance of Zen M/2 BSD2797E28M EL BSD612M28 BSD-TH60/44M

CERF BSD-1264/28 -2001

Comp/Scissor Ch/HIC - neutered CHIC #12817
Imperial Guard M/2
-
-
-

CERF BSD-1073/8 - 2000

Comp/Scissor Ch/HIC Group placer
Indigo Jack M/2
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor Died 1/07 Hemangiosarcoma
Icy Hot Pepper M/2
-
-
-
-
Comp/Level neutered
I Max M/2
-
-
-
-
Comp/Scissor Owner moved, no forwarding information
Indigo Imp F BSD-2834E32F-PI BSD-EL1002F78-PI
-
CERF BSD-1409/76 - 2005 Comp/Scissor Ch/CGC PT - CHIC 29336, Spayed
Ivy League F BSD-3075E54F-P1 BSD-EL842F54-PI Normal CERF BSD-1154/80 - 2006 Comp/Scissor 16 pts one major/RN CGC HIC - CHIC 16943 Spayed 2007 due to pyometra

Isengard's "H" Litter Page --- Born: 11/05/98 - Pedigree - One Female Groenendael

Ch Verseau's Forever George CD Select x Ch Greenfields Zibelle OA OAJ Select

Name
Sex
Hips
Elbows
Thyroid
Eyes
Dentition/bite
Other information
Here Comes Holly   F Not done Not done Not Done

CERF BSD-1074

Comp/Scissor Ch/HIC Spayed

Isengard CHIC's - Canine Health Information Center

REGISTRATION BREED SEX BIRTH DATE CHIC #
ISENGARD-N-SUMERWYND NIKOLA DL91689401   F Aug 29 2002 19079
ISENGARD-N-SUMERWYND'S NEOJAX DL91689402   M Aug 29 2002 19078
ISENGARD'S INDIGO IMP DL80105014   F Jul 11 1999 29336
ISENGARD'S INSTANCE OF ZEN DL80105010   M Jul 11 1999 12817
ISENGARD'S IVY LEAGUE DL80105011   F Jul 11 1999 16943
ISENGARD'S JOE COOL DL82171205   M Nov 25 1999 13345
ISENGARD'S JOURNEY TO THE TOP DL82171202   M Nov 25 1999 17990
ISENGARD'S JUST IN TIME DL82171201   M Nov 25 1999 13342
ISENGARD'S JUST SHYLA DL82171203   F Nov 25 1999 13346
ISENGARD'S KAUNIS KATIA DL88344101   F Dec 24 2000 13360
ISENGARD'S LICENSED TO CHILL DL87293602   F Feb 24 2001 14007
ISENGARD'S MAKIN' A SCENE DL87963501   F Jul 4 2001 16167
ISENGARD'S PRECIOUS DN03851502   M May 11 2003 30235
SUMERWYND'S DANA OF ISENGARD DL61274106   F Dec 25 1995 12680

Notes: Jax's Elbows didn't pass OFA. This came as a surprise as the vet who did the x-ray saw nothing wrong and he has no symptoms or any kind of lameness. So Michelle took him to a well respected radiologist and had more x-rays done and went over the results with him. Apparently Jax has two tiny symetrical bone spurs on his elbows. Very tiny and only can be seen with special lighting which is why the first vet didn't see them. The rest of his elbows look "pristine" with no degenerative signs. This vet's opinion was that the bone spurs occured during a growth period, possibly in urtero, and were not an indication he had DJD. The OFA will not pass any sort of abnormality and lump everything under that heading. He gave Michelle the all clear to do all his normal activities including agility and obedience. I have checked littermates as they came of age. There were three in Jax's litter. His sister, Nikki came out clear and Natick, in a pet home will have his done soon. I repeated the breeding and there were two more offspring, both of those boys have OFA normal elbows. So far all the Dana kids who have had their elbows done have come back normal. Not everyone checks elbows at this point, I will continue to check and be open with the results.

Jax's elbows were re-checked at 4 yrs of age and the radiologist again stated that they were 'pristine' with absolutely no degeneration or irregularities other than the bone spurs. X-rays were copied to disc and will soon be viewable online.

Litters A-G: When I started breeding in 1979 it was not common for non-breeding dogs in a litter to be checked for hip dysplasia, and elbows and eyes weren't checked at all as it was not believed that Belgians had elbow or eye problems at that time. I stopped breeding between 1988 and 1996 while focusing on my career, marriage and two young sons. I'm including data on recent litters where more checks were done and these are dogs which feature in my current breeding program. Please contact me with questions and updates and corrections. I will add more information and numbers I have on my earlier litters when I have more time.

"A" Litter - 7/4/79

Brenna x Lunar Shade

1 F - 7 M

Two hips checked, both good. One OFA the other a working police dog.

Hip BSD551F44 Normal - Artful Dodger

One had eyes checked at nine years, for the first time, and had a small age related cataract. None

2 Level bites

All Full Dentition

1 M Monorchid

6 M Intact

"B" Litter - 4/19/81

Brenna x Gunter Rex v Siegestor

4 F - 3 M

Three had hips checked, one a working police dog.

Hip BSD633F36 Normal - Butterfly Chaser

Hip BSD595F30 Normal - Beguiling Scarlett

One with pannus, Butterfly Chaser, was diagnosed after her litter and spayed.

None Scissor/Full All males intact

"C" Litter - 5/27/83

Brenna x Trademark

1 F - 2 M

Two had hips checked, both OFA. Female had elbows done, OFA

Hip BSD834F35 Normal - EL BSD83F143 - Calendar Girl

Two had eyes checked, both clear

Calender Girl BSD 458.

None Scissor/Full All males intact

"D" Litter - 5/27/83

Robin x Famous Amos

3 F - 3 M

Hip BSD831F27 Normal - Destiny

Two with pannus both neutered. Others had eyes checked clear. One of D litter was bred and no problems in offspring.

None

Scissors on 5 pups, one level.

Full on 5 pups with one male missing 2 premolars.

All males intact

"E" Litter - 8/20/86

Ashley x Argus

4 F - 2 M

All in pet homes. One male and one female shown and pointed but not finished. No hip checks. No problems observed. No eyes checked, no problems observed. None 2 Level, 4 Scissor/Full All males intact

"F" Litter - 8/24/88

Ashley x Midas

2 F - 5 M

Hip BSD1256G24M - Favorite Son

Hip BSD1444G41M - EL BSD84M80 - Front Runner

Only one had eyes checked,

Front Runner CERF BSD-244.

None Scissor/Full

1 M Cryptorchid

4 M Intact

"G" Litter - 2/27/96

Belle x Dash

3 F - 3 M

All in pet homes. One male died of parvo as a youngster. None checked. None One wry bite. The rest scissors. Full dentition.

1 M Monorchid

2 M Intact